10/23/03


I've noticed that if I visit certain web sites I will get SPAM related to
their content. soon afterward This happens whenever I look at discount drug
sites, ie Canadian Pharmacies offering cheaper prescription drugs to US
customers, and sites selling supplements. I have never registered at any of
these sites or given one my email address. I use IE 6 with Active X set to
prompt. I'd pass this off as coincidence but it happens every time. Last
night I looked at one Canadian discounters site following a link in a story
on a local TV channel's website. This morning I received four ads for
discount Canadian drugs. My email address is beday@greedybroadbandisp.com,
these came addressed to bedavis.

I have the preview window disabled in Outlook and blocked sender for each
message, deleting them all unopened. What's going on? BHO's being installed
by the numerous popups I received and closed reading my email address from
the registry of another configuration file? I ran Adaware as I was closing
down last night. It found about a dozen cookies with perhaps four data
miners. I use Adaware and Spybot S & D regularly. My firewall is Sygate Pro
5.1.


Not As Anonymous As I Think.


TIA

User1532 wrote:
> 10/23/03
>
>
> I've noticed that if I visit certain web sites I will get SPAM related to
> their content. soon afterward This happens whenever I look at discount drug
> sites, ie Canadian Pharmacies offering cheaper prescription drugs to US
> customers, and sites selling supplements. I have never registered at any of
> these sites or given one my email address. I use IE 6 with Active X set to
> prompt. I'd pass this off as coincidence but it happens every time. Last
> night I looked at one Canadian discounters site following a link in a story
> on a local TV channel's website. This morning I received four ads for
> discount Canadian drugs. My email address is beday@greedybroadbandisp.com,
> these came addressed to bedavis.

Use an Anon Proxy. Your browser will sometimes betray you, if I'm not
mistaken, the user's email is a field that is allowably transmitted to a
webserver as per the http RFC's. It sends all kinds of stuff- the page
you where at last, your IP address, your hostname, email, language
pref., connect pref, etc. A proxy can deny the headers and even re-write
them. I had Squid running, and I re-wrote all mine that gave away info,
except IP, which still gets sent because it was my proxy server. I'm not
saying you should start running an anonymous proxy server to surf with,
but you can use one. Do a search for "anonymous proxy servers" and pick
one that works well. Test it someplace that shows headers like
USER-AGENT and REFERER and IP#. You will have to change often because
they close down quick most times, but they can't be beat for surfing to
potentially dangerous places.


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I have anonymous procxy servers bookmarked. If you could find the # for that
RFC, I'd like to read it. I thought all that could be transmitted was
browser type, OS and IP+port. My email is obviously sent to websites
desiring it . I'd like to read that RFC. If you could provide a link to it
I'd appreciate it, or post it to the group

Thanks for the info.

-User1532: HardlyAnonymous

"jayjwa" <jayjwa@hotspam.microsoftsux.suk> wrote in message
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> User1532 wrote:
> > 10/23/03
> >
> >
> > I've noticed that if I visit certain web sites I will get SPAM related
to
> > their content. soon afterward This happens whenever I look at discount
drug
> > sites, ie Canadian Pharmacies offering cheaper prescription drugs to US
> > customers, and sites selling supplements. I have never registered at any
of
> > these sites or given one my email address. I use IE 6 with Active X set
to
> > prompt. I'd pass this off as coincidence but it happens every time. Last
> > night I looked at one Canadian discounters site following a link in a
story
> > on a local TV channel's website. This morning I received four ads for
> > discount Canadian drugs. My email address is
beday@greedybroadbandisp.com,
> > these came addressed to bedavis.
>
> Use an Anon Proxy. Your browser will sometimes betray you, if I'm not
> mistaken, the user's email is a field that is allowably transmitted to a
> webserver as per the http RFC's. It sends all kinds of stuff- the page
> you where at last, your IP address, your hostname, email, language
> pref., connect pref, etc. A proxy can deny the headers and even re-write
> them. I had Squid running, and I re-wrote all mine that gave away info,
> except IP, which still gets sent because it was my proxy server. I'm not
> saying you should start running an anonymous proxy server to surf with,
> but you can use one. Do a search for "anonymous proxy servers" and pick
> one that works well. Test it someplace that shows headers like
> USER-AGENT and REFERER and IP#. You will have to change often because
> they close down quick most times, but they can't be beat for surfing to
> potentially dangerous places.
>
>
> --
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=The New Atr2.Ath.Cx=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> - jayjwa *Https Only* Mod-SSL / PGP Key / CA Onsite
> Was I helpful?: https://atr2.ath.cx/papers/affero.php
> What every Windows user needs: https://atr2.ath.cx/pub/pic.jpg
> Mail: jayjwa@hotspam.com Spam servers: listme@listme.dsbl.org
> /cgi-bin/ping-jay.cgi or finger for GPG & info
> /pub is public WWW directory Registered Linux fanatic #37
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Linux Tough.Powered By Slackware=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
>

What address did they add? User1532@comcash.net Let'em.
"Lance Delacroix" <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:bnbti9$ve948$2@ID-110594.news.uni-berlin.de...
> On Thursday 23 October 2003 11:22 pm, User1532 issued a fatwa thus:
>
> > My email address is
> > xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx,
>
> Well, every address harvester in the world just added you to their list,
so
> I wouldn't be surprised if you start getting lots more UCEs soon. Happy
> reading!

On Thursday 23 October 2003 11:22 pm, User1532 issued a fatwa thus:

> My email address is
> xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx,

Well, every address harvester in the world just added you to their list, so
I wouldn't be surprised if you start getting lots more UCEs soon. Happy
reading!

Just browsing to a web site does not give out your E-mail address.

Think about it.
If that were true, every pop-up window would also be stealing your E-mail.
We have bad spam now, but that would mean Gator and doubleclick would rule
the world.

You can browse the web all you want and if you keep Spyware off your
computer, and aren't running IE3.02 or something, then you will be fine.

Nate


"User1532" <User1532@comcash.net> wrote in message
news:QLWlb.4721$9E1.24756@attbi_s52...
> 10/23/03
>
>
> I've noticed that if I visit certain web sites I will get SPAM related to
> their content. soon afterward This happens whenever I look at discount
drug
> sites, ie Canadian Pharmacies offering cheaper prescription drugs to US
> customers, and sites selling supplements. I have never registered at any
of
> these sites or given one my email address. I use IE 6 with Active X set to
> prompt. I'd pass this off as coincidence but it happens every time. Last
> night I looked at one Canadian discounters site following a link in a
story
> on a local TV channel's website. This morning I received four ads for
> discount Canadian drugs. My email address is beday@greedybroadbandisp.com,
> these came addressed to bedavis.
>
> I have the preview window disabled in Outlook and blocked sender for each
> message, deleting them all unopened. What's going on? BHO's being
installed
> by the numerous popups I received and closed reading my email address from
> the registry of another configuration file? I ran Adaware as I was closing
> down last night. It found about a dozen cookies with perhaps four data
> miners. I use Adaware and Spybot S & D regularly. My firewall is Sygate
Pro
> 5.1.
>
>
> Not As Anonymous As I Think.
>
>
> TIA
>
>

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:26:37 -0700, "Nate" <managers@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Just browsing to a web site does not give out your E-mail address.

Actually, it can. If you enter your e-mail address into your browser
settings either as part of your personal information or as part of
your browser's e-mail function the address can be retrieved by a
website.

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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:04:49 -0700, Kyle Thomas Pope
<kurokyle@notmail.spam.not.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:26:37 -0700, "Nate" <managers@microsoft.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Just browsing to a web site does not give out your E-mail address.
>
>Actually, it can. If you enter your e-mail address into your browser
>settings either as part of your personal information or as part of
>your browser's e-mail function the address can be retrieved by a
>website.
>
Putting your email address in your browser, and in a mailto: link on
your webpage, were two of the first innocent mistakes so many made
when the internet first developed.

The internet was designed with the assumption that everybody would be
honest and honorable when using it. And we all know about "assume".


Chuck
I hate spam - PLEASE get rid of the spam before emailing me!
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:26:37 -0700, "Nate" <managers@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Just browsing to a web site does not give out your E-mail address.

Actually it does if the site requests it.

>Think about it.
>If that were true, every pop-up window would also be stealing your E-mail.

And you don't have any idea how 60% of all mail sent has become spam.

>We have bad spam now, but that would mean Gator and doubleclick would rule
>the world.

They are flooding the world with garbage. The mail system is breaking
down as a result of the garbage being sent.

>You can browse the web all you want and if you keep Spyware off your
>computer, and aren't running IE3.02 or something, then you will be fine.

That simply isn't true.

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:34:26 -0500, umbra <umbra@nononehome.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:26:37 -0700, "Nate" <managers@microsoft.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Just browsing to a web site does not give out your E-mail address.
>
>Actually it does if the site requests it.

Only if you're dumb enough to put it into your browser config.