This last weekend I went down to my favorite gunshop to pickup another NEF/H&R Handi-Rifle for a project. ...but I got there I saw that they had a Ruger single action 32 H&R mag for sale. So, I molested the nice little revolver for awhile until saw what I've been wanting for all my life. A hammered side-by-side 12ga shotgun.

Needless to say, a new Handi didn't come home with me. I'm the proud parent to a Liberty II 24" 12ga IC/M choked scatterblaster. For being an import gun on the cheap side ($429+tax/etc) it is really really nice! The wood is beautiful, with a very tight wood-to-metal fit. The Turkish walnut has some sweet grain and marbling, somewhat resembling a fine English double shotgun/rifle. The action on this shotty is darn tight too. Nice case hardened finish as well.

This shotgun will play a few parts for me, a dove, rabbit, squirrel, and grouse blaster. ...and a formitable home defense cannon.

Here's basically what it looks like, except the case coloring is more prominate. I'll post actual pics of it once I get back home from my out-of-town job.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/0_1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/0_2.jpg

I will have to get some new pictures..

I have one of these; Glock .40 cal....


http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/images/guns/gun-40caliber-glock.jpg

Good ol' 1911 style
http://ser8.imgdump.net/images/10052006/e8df5b9f0f43049.jpg (http://imgdump.net/)
My little pocket companion
http://ser8.imgdump.net/images/10052006/02c5bfcd02955bc.jpg (http://imgdump.net/)
and my carry rig before I got a double mag pouch
http://ser8.imgdump.net/images/10052006/8a4c53be0b2ec05.jpg (http://imgdump.net/)

I know I need a lot more, but that will all come in due time :D

nvr heard of champion brand... is that along the lines of Hi-point?

Cant go wrong with Glock, or a 1911 'n Keltec combo..

Its a Springfield Armory, the model is the Champion. Because its a 4" barrel instead of the original 5" its not technicaly a 1911(A1). PW9142LP is the model number to be specific and I am insulted that you would relate it to a Hi-Point. Rock Island Armory, Charles Daly, Armscor, are closer to a Hi-Point, though RIA is proving to be a ver reliable platform from what I have seen.


And thanks Knight, I remember from the old thread that you have quite the nice collection.

most companies put their name on the side of the gun, not just their model name.

http://ser8.imgdump.net/images/10072006/s8_1c4483f494e0e16.jpg (http://www.imgdump.net/)
Here is the other side of the slide, also for a size comparison... It was a picture I had already taken so thats why I am using this one, I dont have a Digicam anymore so whatever I have is what I will have to use dispite the poor focus.

Time to snap some new pics. Carry pieces are a 3rd gen G19, USP 45F (winter mostly), Kimber Pro Carry II (older internal extractor, alloy framed, model).

I just picked one of these up a couple hours ago in 9mm flavor.

Walther P99QA (Quick Action) Mil Green w/black slide. $559+tax+insta-check fee. Got me a box of defensive loads and (100rd)box of target FMJs..

I was gonna get a hi-cap 45cal 1911 or a XD-45, but decided otherwise after shooting my friend's Walther. Loaded its about a pound lighter than my 1911, which has been causing additional back pain due to it's weight.

I'll try to get actual pics posted once I get home Thurs.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/P99QA.jpg

Nice :) I shot a 45 handgun once .... it bruised my little hand :( :yikes:

I had an Spider Xtra for a few years, does that count? :rofl:

I am stuck between computer geeks and gun freaks, god help me!

I know I promised these pics awhile back, so here's the updated pics of the shotgun I purchased last summer and the recent pistol.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0218.jpg
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http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0222.jpg

Nice pics Knight, even though I am not too crazy about guns, I do appreciate a good firearm when I see/use one.
I might have to get me a decent pistol or a shotgun once I move to AZ and get me a house.
What pistol is that in the pic (I like the way it looked)? Is that a 9mm (though the bullets looked like .40/.45 cal)?

Its a Walther P99 9mm. The 9mm, 40 S&W and 45acp are all about the same kenetic energy level. All sufficient to protect the home, family and one's self.

That Walther P99 runs about $500-$600 depending on the local market. I paid $559+tax+instant background check fee.


45ACP(left) vs. 9mm(right) Both are Federal Defense loads w/Hydra-Shock bullets.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0223.jpg

Here's some older pics of some of my pieces.


My customized H&R varmint rifle(did the wood work myself), my Ruger Vaquero 45LC, and my 1911A1 45ACP.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0175.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0178.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0180.jpg
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The business end of my Ruger Vaquero
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0137.jpg

My carry pieces: 1911A1 45acp, 38spl derringer, and my former Bersa Thunder 380(gave to a female friend).
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0116.jpg

My Virginian Dragoon Silhouette 44mag 10'5" barrel and my Colt Python 8" barrel 357mag(recently appraised at $1450-$1550).
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/1234.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/4.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/100_0123.jpg

well, Ive got a new firearm on order.
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/Images/bcwa3f16m4.jpg
I will post pictures of the whole family after I get them all together.

Very nice pieces guys. Let me know when the hell you will be out hunting so I keep my butt at home.

Knight, what is with the 10.5" barrel pistols, compensating for something?

U-hahahaa...... :rofl:

I was only kidding, please do not shoot! :)

Knight, what is with the 10.5" barrel pistols, compensating for something?



probably... ..which would explain the lack of females in my life. which then leaves more money for guns, so it all works out. :bananas:

Very nice pieces guys. Let me know when the hell you will be out hunting so I keep my butt at home.

Knight, what is with the 10.5" barrel pistols, compensating for something?

U-hahahaa...... :rofl:

I was only kidding, please do not shoot! :)

dont worry, if your at home, my 7mm Rem mag will easily penetrate 1/2" steel so a house wall should be no problem.

probably... ..which would explain the lack of females in my life. which then leaves more money for guns, so it all works out. :bananas:
oh dang....regardless, at this day and age all you really need is a gun to convince a girl to go out with you anyhow!!! lol ..jk!:fart:

....nah, I was kidding but seriously, if you got the $$$, almost all women find you attractive...:rolleyes:

dont worry, if your at home, my 7mm Rem mag will easily penetrate 1/2" steel so a house wall should be no problem.

Speaking of penetration, I have a date this weekend so most of the time I won't even be home.

Shoot all you want (spare my gaming rig though)! :rofl:

oh dang....regardless, at this day and age all you really need is a gun to convince a girl to go out with you anyhow!!! lol ..jk!:fart:

....nah, I was kidding but seriously, if you got the $$$, almost all women find you attractive...:rolleyes:

Using a gun is about what it takes to get a woman to go out with me... lol

The money this is soooooooooo true... Especially in FL.. Only thing down there are elderly, lesbians and gold diggers.


BTW, good luck with your date.

ok, I got my lower this morning.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i245/FrontyOwner/firearms/100_1932.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i245/FrontyOwner/firearms/100_1933.jpg

ok, one more...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i245/FrontyOwner/firearms/100_1934.jpg

Using a gun is about what it takes to get a woman to go out with me... lol

The money this is soooooooooo true... Especially in FL.. Only thing down there are elderly, lesbians and gold diggers.


BTW, good luck with your date.

I forgot to load my fun so she noticed the missing clip and ditched me faster than a skinhead at a Elton John concert! :roll:

Kidding, of course, all is well and thank you Knight. I am jealous of you two. So far I didn't have a place and need to own a gun but probably after I relocate and buy my own place (hopefully soon), I will get a gun or two....for home defense of course..ehem...lol (if PP sees this he might give me sh*t but I can't help it if I like guns (for their mechanics and also shooting targets only though). I could never go hunting or shoot anyone, I know you gonna think I am weak but oh well....:(


Btw, Is that a 9mm Carbine Math? Beautiful weapon indeed...I only used one while playing Swat3...hehe...

nope. 5.56 X 45
16" light weight barrel
collapable stock.

Nice carbine, Mathster. Sometimes I miss my AR-15. ....and my AK47 ....and my sks. ....and my Dragonov. ah dammit, I miss all my guns of past and present. I just wanna go home and hold my guns.

thank you.
I debated between an AR and AK and after shooting both, I was set on the AR.
the AK was uncomfortable. to be able to see the sights, I had to mount the rifle so high on my shoulder, the bottom of the stock was against my collar bone.
I think next year or so, I will get an XD. I dont know if I want the 4" in .45 or the subcompact in 9mm.

I debated on getting an XD with my tax money. They are nice for sure..

It was a competition between: Glock 17, 19, 21 , the XD 45, and Walther P99. All of which fine pieces, but as you can see - the Walther won. lol

I'm also getting a 5/6 shot 38/357mag 2-3" snubby and another 45-70(to be reamed out to 45-120) this year.

I haven't been a fan of the glock since the "new plastic gun" excitment died.
The glock seems to point tooo much like a revolver.

The glock seems to point tooo much like a revolver.

What the heck did you mean by that? :confused:

What the heck did you mean by that? :confused:

If you compare the angle of most glock handgrips to the barrel, its close to the same angle as revolvers.
most autoloaders its closer to a 90 degree angle.

Depending on which your accustomed to, this will make you shoot low or high.
Look at Knights photos. draw a line from the barrel thru the backstrap of his autoloader.
Now do the same thing with the revolver below. see the difference in the angle of the grip to the barrel? glock is closer to a revolver than an autoloader.

Make sense?

I don't have any guns, but i got a few knives......
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Nice blades there, Dtex!

And nice to see you on the site again.

If you compare the angle of most glock handgrips to the barrel, its close to the same angle as revolvers.
most autoloaders its closer to a 90 degree angle.

Depending on which your accustomed to, this will make you shoot low or high.
Look at Knights photos. draw a line from the barrel thru the backstrap of his autoloader.
Now do the same thing with the revolver below. see the difference in the angle of the grip to the barrel? glock is closer to a revolver than an autoloader.

Make sense?
Yes, it does make a lot of sense and I have to agree, I prefer to ones that are closer to the 90 degree angle.

Dtex, that is one sweet collection. I have a much smaller collection myself!
Sadly, most of mine are China/Taiwan made knock offs of the US made originals... :roll: All I got is a 1950's style 7" K-Bar but I will eventually get more authentic blades as I love them a whole a lot more than guns!
Also on my list is a set of original Katanas, though I have no idea how to smuggle them out of Japan without getting caught! :yikes:

lol

My blade collection consists of a Buck Titanium, Buck Approach, a Swiss army knife from Marlboro, a Case USMC knife, and a Cold Steel Tanto.
Oh, and a folding utility knife.

If any of you guys need any knives, just give me a brand, and model #, and I can get most at dealer cost. BTW, all of the inlays on the inserts, I do myself. I picked this hobby up a few back.

If any of you guys need any knives, just give me a brand, and model #, and I can get most at dealer cost.
That is my problem though, I love knives but I do not have the slightest clue to the make/model of the knives I had seen and liked in the past...is there a good magazine or web site you can recommend to get that info?

BTW, all of the inlays on the inserts, I do myself. I picked this hobby up a few back.
I noticed you buy the knife first, then kill the snake with it then decorate it with the snake you killed using it....very nice setup! lol

This is the 7" Camillus (USMC) replika I have:
http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/camillus/images/cm5684k.jpg

New addition to the family. My uncle gave me this lastnite at our First of the Summer Family and Friends Shoot/Cookout.

Winchester Model 94 Trapper 16" barrel 45LC. ...and it shoots like a dream. Knocks down iron targets with some authority. :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/Picture002.jpg

nice rifle! That is the kinda rifle I'd like to shoot with!

Here's a short clip of my uncle and cousin shooting paint cans/buckets with a 460 Weatherby Magnum. ...yeah, an elephant gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPsu3CSTWoA

Here's a short clip of my uncle and cousin shooting paint cans/buckets with a 460 Weatherby Magnum. ...yeah, an elephant gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPsu3CSTWoA
Why use an elephant gun to shoot plastic bottle?? Weren't there any thing else you could shoot at such as deer, bear or even a pink elephant? :dancinge:

Out of season, out of season, and haven't seen a pink elephant since I stopped drinking.

anything outside of africa would have exploded like that bottle...

I wonder if I will be able to get a pistol or rifle in AZ so I can do some practice shooting. I really enjoy pistol shooting (indoors) before aholes start requiring singles to pay up like a stupid membership fee ($200 yearly) to be able to use the range just because some idiot blew his own head off in one of them....:(

You're from Cali? If so, it might be a little bit of a chore to buy a firearm in another state because you also have to abide my your resident state's laws.

Handguns = not a chance. You can only buy receive a handgun from a dealer or private transfer in your resident state. No interstate sales of handguns per federal law.

I walk in to a gun shop, fill out the blue form, drop some cash, walk out with all the ammo for my brand new pistol.
a couple mile from the gun shop is an wide spot in the road where people dump junk to shoot... go bang, bang, bang, bang until Im done. Life is good in middle america...

Actually, if Im so inclined, I load the pistol while im in the gun shop, drop it in a pocket or under my shirt and walk out with a loaded concealed firearm..

New addition to the family. My uncle gave me this lastnite at our First of the Summer Family and Friends Shoot/Cookout.

Winchester Model 94 Trapper 16" barrel 45LC. ...and it shoots like a dream. Knocks down iron targets with some authority. :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/knight0334/Picture002.jpg

very nice!